Kyle Tonaus | Comedian / Movie Guy (Not just Marvel)
02.03.26
Dawn Cochran: Recording.
Kyle Tonaus: Oh shit. Oh, I should have gotten some words out. I could have cleared the air with some expletives and gotten that out of the way.
DC: Who are you?!
KT: This is Kyle Tonus. -- I just got a random text from a (redacted) buddy, who said a bunch of A's and H's and exclamation points.
DC: They're screaming!
KT: Yeah, he's just screaming at me.
DC: Do you need to answer the (redacted)?
KT: Answer the...? Oh, no. I'll try not to be distracted from his little blurbs up there of how he's like going insane and stuff. He gets all paranoid when I mention his (redacted.)
DC: Okay, well, Kyle, what do you do? Tell me about yourself.
KT: I'm Kyle Tonaus.
DC: You did that part.
KT: I do, uh... like work? Like to sustain myself? Which side are you? What side do you want right now?
DC: I don't want the sustaining yourself, Kyle. I want the...
KT: That makes sense because I'm starving anyway. I'm a starving artist.
DC: Correct. Soooo, a little bird told me that you do comedy. And then this one time, this nun told me that you do movies. And then another person saw you on YouTube. So, what do you do?
KT: Yeah, I'm obsessed with film. And I kind of grew up wanting to make movies, and to be in movies, and be a little hero guy; but real life is terrifying, so I wanted to make movies. It's still something I care about because I never really got the same feeling in real life that I would get when watching the end of Back to the Future 2 when conically current 1985 Doc Brown disappears leaving conically current 1985 Marty stranded in 1955 again, and a mail carrier shows up out of nowhere to give Marty a letter from 1985 Doc, which was written from 1885, where Doc apparently disappeared to. This changes Marty's mood from confused and scared to elated, and then the nice mail carrier asks the excited Marty if he needs help, and if there's anything he can do for him, and then the camera dollies in on Marty's face as he says "There's only one man who can help me." - And then the title theme music swells as we cut to 1955 Doc from the first Back to the Future as he's occupied sending conically past 1985 Marty Back to the Future in a quick recap of events that proceeds as before and ends with Doc's familiar celebration of success, which is then immediately interrupted with now conically current 1985 Marty circling a corner running into frame along with an abrupt action music queue that puts the canonically past now turned canonically current 1955 Doc Brown back in the middle of the action or "misen sen", if you will. The feeling you get when something exciting and dynamic like that happens in a movie - it's a dragon I'm always chasing. So, I don't know, I guess it's like the closest I get to the feeling of triumph, an emotional height I'm always chasing. I love movies that make me feel that way, so at an early age I tried to make movies. I can be anything you want to be! But making my own [films] when I was young obviously had its limitations. They ended up being more like goofy projects. I would lean into the comedy side of things to try to make it entertaining for people, because that was my main goal, obviously. It’s not to do it for myself, or some higher purpose, but to entertain others or should I say impress others, and try to be unique to others and fit in, and be something special. Comedy ended up being the only avenue I could take, making skits and movies and stuff like that. I wasn't going to be making Goodfellas or Godfathers, or even Star Warses, Indiana Joneses. I was just trying to make goofy sketches. And so that kind of just took me down the path of comedy. The live, socially performative element didn't really cross my mind yet. Eventually I'm like, I can be live, I can be cool and on the spot, I can be performative. I'm also a strong believer in developing the fundamentals or the elementals of a field of study, because I find it to be the most romantic and main character thing to do, but really it might be because I suck and can never develop beyond the basics. If I went into music, I would play the piano; if I wanted to tell a story, I would write it in prose; if I wanted to be funny, I should do stand-up comedy, which I thought was being funny in its purest form - and also the bravest, most honorable, and most sexiest. Then I got into stand-up like George Carlin. It's kind of those two avenues that stuck to me. So now I'm just always pursuing movies or comedy.
DC: Yeah?
KT: Yeah, I hate myself.
DC: When is the first time you ever did stand-up?
KT: I have two first times, because I'd say the first two times I did live performances like that were a little distinct. The first very first time was when I was in high school. One of my friends was in a band and he was about to play. And I think it was like a church youth event of some kind. I grew up next to Houghton College, which was like a Christian college, and we had friends that lived there. So there's a lot of fancy folks over in Houghton. The freaks were in Fillmore. That was a town over where the K-12 school was. It was just like a small town where the water was bad. We all grew up short, and riding skateboards, and not as close to heaven like they were in Houghton. Smoking reefer, not me, but I tried my best. Riding skateboards. I tried my best. Stealing cigarettes and beers from bigger folk and...
DC: So I did not know where Houghton was until just now. My cat, Nico, was born in Pike.
KT: Yeah, that's right near Fillmore.
DC: Yeah. So anyway, you might have grown up in a tinier town than I did.
KT: Yeah. One traffic light. It wasn't even a switching light. It just blinked.
DC: Oh, wow. That is a way tiny town.
KT: Yeah, we had a post office.
DC: How many people are live in Houghton? Let me see. Oh, wow. The 2010 census says that there was 1,693 people.
KT: That's the amount of people going to heaven.
DC: *laughs* So, okay, so your first, your first time on stage...
KT: I didn't lose the thread. I can go back. I know what I'm doing! There was a venue that was like a church, a big church, my Houghtonites, as I recall, those friends were in a band because they were talented and tall, and they were about to play. Me and my other short friend, Dan, from Fillmore, went up and did this little bit. I have this on video, by the way, because the first few times I went on and performed in front of anyone, I was like, “I got to record it,” of course, because I was used to recording everything anyway. I just went up there, and was like, “I'm going to record the show. I'm recording the show for my friends, and you can't get in my way while I'm recording.” And I just remember the line was, ‘If you make any kind of physical contact with me while I'm trying to record my friends, Dan is going to make some physical contact on your face.’ And then we kind of like, slapped our fists together or whatever. we both did like a synchronized fist to palm slap. And we got a giggle. And then I awkwardly said some more stuff and then left. And then they played some Green Day with 14-year-old gusto, and I looked up to them a lot. They were very talented young boys. It was fun, fun times.
DC: I have to pause and ask you a question.
KT: Yes?
DC: So your friends in the band were tall, is what you're saying? And you and Dan were short?
KT: Yeah, we were from Fillmore. And they were Houghton.
DC: Interesting. Okay. And how tall are you?
KT: Under 6 feet.
DC: That's not a height!!!
KT: Yeah, but that's all that matters.
DC: No, it's not. That is not all that matters. I'm not asking you the question to be mean. Short kings matter!
KT: Oh, no, you can't. Don't say that king shit. That's a backhanded compliment.
DC: Also, I'm pretty sure you're taller than me, so you're fine.
KT: Yeah, that's what I say. That's what I'm saying.
DC: But you can't tell the audience you're short and then not say your height!!!
KT: Oh, 5’10”
DC: My God, that's not even short, you weirdo.
KT: Well, 5’9” and ¾, really. And that's only if I like stand up straight.
DC: It's only if my posture is good. Yeah. Okay, well, now that we got that out of the way.
KT: Wait, did I want to say all that? I got to keep it careful here. I got to be careful with you reporter types.
DC: I can definitely edit out anything that you find unsavory.
KT: Pretty much anything about me is fine. Say that they play Green Day splendidly for 14-year-olds.
DC: Perfect. Okay, so tell me about your second time on stage.
KT: That was an official stand-up routine, in which I did multiple bits and jokes when I was like a sophomore in Fredonia. And it was like an open mic at little coffee spot in the middle of campus. They had a little flat step stage that you step up onto. One night they had an open mic. And a few of us did stand-up, or well, tried our hand to stand-up. And a lot of people were bad. And the first time I tried it, I actually got some laughs. So that's the night I got cursed, because I thought I could do it more consistently. And I thought I was a funny guy. Boy, did that get complicated.
DC: And how many minutes do you think you did?
KT: Maybe like somewhere between 5 to 10 minutes?
DC: That's a significant amount of time for your first time doing open mic.
KT: Yeah, because you're just kind of rambling on when you're not really sure how to do it. But it was, yeah, it was decent, you know. I think I had a good pacing with the length of the jokes and stuff.
DC: And then that opened up a can of worms.
KT: That opened up the can of slugs. I don't know what's slower than worms. Molasses.
DC: The can of molasses.
KT: Now it's just been oozing ever since and covering very little ground.
DC: However, molasses can get dangerous because there was the Great Molasses Flood of 1919. I'm not sure if you know about that.
KT: Yeah, I'm dangerous. I know that.
DC: Okay, so when were you a sophomore at Fredonia? Let's put this into perspective. Whoa. How long have you been doing comedy?
KT: This interview is over.
DC: How long have you been doing comedy?
KT: I was a sophomore in Fredonia in 2005. So, I don't know? Since then, I would say. I guess I really haven't been consistent in it, but I dabbled, and I sought out open mics around Rochester and Buffalo. But that was a little while later. Until then, it was whatever I could do in college. I got a Master's Degree in English, so I was around campus for quite a while, until 2011 or so. So every now and then I would hear about an open mic or something I could just hop on to and try out some jokes or funny thoughts I've been saving up. Sometimes I would cross over with skit ideas I had, where I would try to make funny videos, and I sometimes would translate them to like stand-up bits and try to do them live, try to do them in video form, just try it different ways. But after 2011, after Fredonia, there really wasn't much opportunity. I would surf on the web where an open mic was anywhere around town, at a coffee shop that was doing some sort of like music/comedy/talent show/open mic. But around 2012-2013, I started going to Rochester to Boulder Cafe. And 2014, I did my first open mic set in Buffalo with Clayton Williams hosting Goodbar -- Mister Goodbar. So I would go there a bit. And then I kind of branched out into the other open mics and stuff too.
DC: So do you want to hear something weird?
KT: ....Yes.
DC: I filmed a movie at Boulder Coffee in like 2022. No, wait, it was 2021. But I know this place. I was very bummed out because my character was a mom. I got type casted because I was old.
KT: I still get type casted as a little kid.
DC: Well, I don't want to be a mom. Anyway, back to, so Goodbar 2014. And then what's your ultimate goal? Is it to be a stand-up comic or is it to do sketch comedy, or is it to be a filmmaker?
KT: You know, writing stories is tough.
DC: I do know.
KT: Especially if I really wanted to make a sprawling story, because ultimately, I would have loved to have been the mind behind some sort of interconnected world-building immersive saga or something.
DC: Oh, you want to build a universe?
KT: Not necessarily like a Lord of the Rings or Game of Thrones type of thing, although that would be awesome. But like an X-Files thing, or an ongoing...
DC: Supernatural?
KT: Well, not necessarily, but genre-based is obviously my go-to. I like mystery. I like wonder. I like the metaphor of fantasy, blah, blah, blah. Fantasy takes you places emotionally easier, and maybe even more effectively than real world shit. I mean, I'm trying to justify my child-like proclivities to storytelling. To not get too far off the rails, I kind of reel it back in. I would like to make film, and I have achieved, I think, in one project, just one project,... Well, I've made a few where I've tried to achieve that kind of level of storytelling of like an ongoing character, story, or saga, or plot that is interesting. I've made this like series of like little neo-mobster shorts that were kind of inspired from like Pulp Fiction and shit like that. And I was trying to have that be an ongoing little series with a mystery, or a mob plot. I kind of lost a thread on that one. But what I did do was make... Well, it was riddled with copyright infringement. It was a Harry Potter kind of satire/parody fan-fiction kind of thing, in which it was like a trippy meta narrative about how I'm playing myself. But then the wizards from Harry Potter come and tell me that in a past life I was Harry Potter, and I did some weird magic to protect everybody from my memories so that no one would find out where the Horcrux was.
DC: Hold on, you're breaking up. Hello???
KT: Oh man, I'm having fun talking about myself. Can you hear me?
DC: Yeah so the wizards...
TK: So I became myself, Kyle Tonaus. And then they found me, and we go on a journey to reclaim my memories as Harry Potter, even though the whole time I don't believe that I'm Harry Potter. I think they're just crazies. Anyway, so that was just a fun hour-long fan-fiction Harry Potter thing, and it gave me an excuse to toy around with special effects, and magic special effects, and green screen stuff. And it was just a cute, clever idea without getting too much into the weeds of like what it was actually about, because I just think it was a nice, tight, little, fun, clever fantasy plot with a meta hook, and comedy; the comedy that ensues from that. But there are one or two moments in that particular project that I think I came the closest to achieving the thing I dreamt about achieving in storytelling and film creating and what I look for in movies that give me that feeling, the aforementioned feeling that I say I'm always chasing.
DC: So one time?
KT: Once or twice, one particular moment, you know, I think worked. But again, the moment worked because it was music based, and I stole a Skrillex song that enhanced the emotion I was going for. And it was a climactic culmination of when I finally became merged with Harry Potter and Harry Potter became me, and it was this big crescendo of a moment, and the Skrillex song worked really well with it. And the special effects I was doing for it came together really well. It's probably pretty cheesy if I go back and watch it now. But, I think I came the closest to capturing that dragon that I was always looking for to do as a filmmaker, or a storyteller, or an artist in general; to achieve that emotional high. It's an emotional high that I can't get, you know, anywhere else, really.
DC: You could probably get it from doing drugs, but I don't recommend that.
KT: Well, my experience with that is limited, but yeah, not, I mean, some are not. Some are nice. Some are nice and they do give good feelings, but not like the behind you get when Gandalf charges down the hill towards helm deep. I don't know. Am I alone on that? I don't know. It's weird.
DC: I'm going to change the subject real quick, because I just want to let you know that while you've been talking, I've had plastic vampire teeth in my mouth, and I pulled them out and there was just drool everywhere. So that's gross. Anyway, okay, back to drugs.
KT: Drugs, yeah. Limited experience there. I am hesitant to try, even though I know there's a couple that work for me, but not weed. That just gives me panic attacks.
DC: Me tooooooo. However, I just started drinking these little weed drinks. And I get pretty fucking high. And I also don't feel like I'm going to die, or that I'm going to have a panic attack. And I just sit here by myself and giggle.
KT: Crooked vines? Drinking some crooked vines??
DC: No, they're called... I don't even know what they're called uhhhhhhh, I don't know. They're from North Carolina. I'm not sure. But yeah, I don't think I could smoke.
KT: No?
DC: I tried that 7,000 times in high school and every result, every time it was terrible.
KT: Yeah, I mean, ditto, ditto.
DC: I don't recommend doing heroin. I'm pretty sure that is chasing the dragon.
KT: Well, that's the term.
DC: So wait, you never answered my question. I don't even remember what my question is now.
KT: Would I rather be a filmmaker or a comedian or something else? Was that it?
DC: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
KT: So I guess that was an elaborate way to say probably a filmmaker, but...
DC: You're really leaning into the stand-up comedy thing.
KT: Yeah, because I feel like it's, as much as it puts you out there, and leaves you vulnerable, the live situation is the easiest to showcase ideas, and just go out there and see if you have a clever line or idea or not.
DC: So can I ask you what happened on Friday at your show?
KT: Oh, I don't know. I'm weary about getting how specific I want to be, but I had a show.
DC: You don't have to be specific. You don't have to say anything that you don't want to say.
KT: I don't know. I should promote it. I should say something nice about it? It was the Green Gorilla showcase created by Brian Brady. Go follow Brian Brady. I'm trying to be promotive. Yeah, I did a show, and it was nasty weather, so our headliner was coming in a little late. Headliner Rafe Williams. Follow him on Instagram.
DC: Where's he from?
KT: Well, he's in New York now. I don't know. His thing is that he's a 36-year-old grandfather.
DC: Oh??
KT: So that's a little bit of an interesting point of interest there and in his routine. But he's a fun guy. He's nice, and it was a good hang at the show. But I was a little disappointed in my set, because I was trying to stretch out my slot and my set, and just felt like a couple of times I was kind of trying to dig myself out of a hole a little bit, and I was losing the audience. It was a smaller room, so if you are losing people, you feel it. I was talking to someone who watched it and they said it wasn't as bad as I was making it sound. But, I don't know if they're just being nice or what, but I mean, I did hear some laughs. It wasn't like silence or something terrible, but there were some times that I wasn't too happy. I was feeling like I wasn't very much in the moment, and I wasn't really able to bounce off of people or make proper eye contact or, you know...
DC: I don't know what proper eye contact is in general.
KT: Right. It just didn't leave me with a great feeling. You know, I don't know. It felt a little bit of a... it didn't feel like a step forward. It felt like staying the same or a bit of an opportunity.
DC: Every artist has those days.
KT: Yeah. I feel like there's stuff to work with, the material I had. And it was all, I don't know if I want to say new material, but it was all material that I am focusing on for Buffalo's Funniest. And that's kind of embarrassing to say that I'm just working on a set for a contest every year that I don't win. But it's kind of like that thing where like, I kind of made a rule for myself where I'm going to work on stuff outside of the material I chose to take to the contest.
DC: Right.
KT: Because if it didn't work there, and it's not like working as well as I want it to, then time to move on.
DC: When is Buffalo's Funniest?
KT: It's usually around end of June.
DC: Who do you think is Buffalo's funniest?
KT: Well, I don't THINK. I KNOW who won.
DC: Well, not even who won. I'm not saying..., I'm not asking you about the contestants.
KT: I don't want to answer that. This interview is over.
DC: Oh, okay. You don't have to answer that. That's fine. What is your most favorite venue to perform at in Buffalo?
KT: I hate choosing favorites. I don't like to do that. I often go to... They're all good. They all got their differences, Isn't this interview over?
DC: Do you want to name drop some of them?
KT: I'll name drop all of them. Well, the ones I go to, I mean. There are 3 of them on Tuesday. Brody and Connor do a good job with the Third Space Cafe, open mic on Tuesdays. That's a nice little spot. The Third Space is a nice cafe. And then a little later that night, you have your Jake Pisker’s and your Jake Sampson's doing Nietzsche's. And that's been renovated, and dressed up, and done up really nicely. So it's a nice little spot.
DC: And that's on Tuesdays?
KT: Yeah, Tuesdays. I think officially the Third Space Cafe is 6:15pm open mic. And then Nietzsche's officially starts at 9, I think.
DC: I'll fact check you.
KT: It might just be 9 to 10. It's a little later, so like I could double it up and go there. But I've been doing Marvel movie nights on Tuesdays. So I've been busy on Tuesdays. Kind of living for the Marvel Marathon right now.
DC: I have no comment on Marvel.
KT: Well, if you ever want to do your loser guy friends a favor, just have a Marvel movie marathon with them, and it’ll give them a reason to live. Wednesday nights are usually my go-to nights for open mics, because I go to my old stomping grounds at Helium. That's a nice option. That’s 7 o'clock as well. And it's usually got some outsiders there, some people there that watch comedy. It's a club setting, so it's a nice spot to work on some material. You get 3 minutes. And that's where I work best at. That's where I'm firing on all cylinders, in the shortest amount of time as possible. I come out there and I do my little vines and whatever. But no, it's nice. It's nice to have more of a Rolodex and an assembly line of comics just come out there and try whatever they think is worthy to work on that week. And then I usually go to Milkie's, which is also at 9. Hosted by none other than Jesse Winterhalter.
DC: I love Milkie's.
KT: And that's a fun loosey goosey laid back vibe that I like. Milkies is chill, Milkies is cool. And it's been recently renovated; the kitchen and the menu. It's got really good food and Nikki is doing a really good job owning that spot now. Nikki Rosenberg.
DC: I'll fact check you.
KT: I think it's Nikki Rosenberg, yeah. Milkies. Go to it. Eat wings. Watch comedy. Why do I feel like I hate the media?
DC: Have you gone to Tudor?
KT: Recently, you know, it's Monday. It's Monday right now.
DC: Oh, it is Monday.
KT: I skipped right over Monday, didn't I? didn't mean to. I have nothing against Tudor or anything, but Mondays I'm not really ready to go out yet. I’m just not really ready to come back from the weekend entirely. And I'm just finishing up some stuff. Monday is a depressing day; start of the week. I usually just want to get home and rest. I love resting. Yeah. But Monday is Tudor Lounge at 8:30 or 9? Hosted by Don Johnson again. Thursdays is Bennett Solowski at a Goodbar at 8-10pm. I'd like to get out to that one more, but for some reason on Thursdays I'm usually being a lazy ass and not going out again. But I get down there as much as I can. And they have a lot of cool comedy shows on Thursdays, like showcases. Sometimes they'll bring someone down from New York or something, and have a pretty decent headliner, sometimes even people that you might know. But whatever, yeah, there's Goodbar Thursdays as well.
DC: Wait, do you mean people I might know, like people I might know or people that have bigger names?
KT: People that have bigger names.
DC: Oh, okay.
KT: Yeah, I don't know. Fridays is kind of all over the place. There's like a once-a-month thing at Rohall's Corner.
DC: I love Rohall's. I went there for my birthday.
KT: Oh my God. It's been a while since I've been there.
DC: I drank some drinks and I pet a cat. It was glorious.
KT: When was that?
DC: September 30th.
KT: Happy birthday.
DC: Oh no, we should probably wrap this up soon.
KT: I'm not done yet.
DC: Keep going.
KT: That's hosted by Erik Welsted. But I don't know what else is on Friday. I feel like Tana Barajas did one. Sundays we did have a thing at Revolver Records. That's kind of turned to some Fridays now once a month, but maybe not. I don't know? But yeah, Revolver Records tries to do comedy sometimes too. And that's a chill spot. And it's cool to have a venue that's not just a dive bar, even though I do love the bars, but it's a nice change of pace to have it at a different form of business.
DC: I got you. I thought I was going to have some really wild questions.
KT: I wish they had open mic at the Regal Cinema or something. That'd be cool.
DC: Wegmans.
KT: Wegmans?
DC: Oh, sorry. Okay, tops.
KT: You have to be clean at Wegmans. Okay, you can tell some dirty jokes at Tops. Yeah.
DC: ShopRite.
KT: I don't even know what that is. It's probably... you can probably tell some fun jokes there.
DC: You don't know what ShopRite is on Elmwood? Oh, it's PriceRite. It's PriceRite.
KT: Yeah, it sounds more familiar. Yeah.
DC: ShopRite was the grocery store in Orange County when I was little. My bad.
KT: Oh.
DC: Yeah, I'm not a Buffalonian.
KT: Wait, you come from way out there?
DC: Orange County, New York. Let's not get too excited.
KT: Oh. Oh, okay. Fillmore had a place called the Market Basket. And then it became a Jubilee.
DC: Okay, wait, time out. Do you know the TV show Holliston?
KT: No.
DC: Okay, do you know who Adam Green is?
KT: No.
DC: Oh, goodness gracious.
KT: I know Adam Brody.
DC: No.
KT: Adam Scott.
DC: No. Do you know Joe Lynch?
KT: Yeah, wow. I want to say, yeah, I'm trying to picture his face. Yeah, I know Joe Lynch.
DC: Okay, so listen, time out. There is... they dabble in horror, which I love, obviously, and comedy. So they have some horror/comedy movies. Anyway, they have a show called Holliston and there's a whole fucking sketch about Market Basket.
KT: Really?
DC: Yeah, and the one girl pronounced, she says Market BAsket.
KT: Oh, really?
DC: Oh my God, I bought -- Yes, it's like 2 seasons of the funniest shit, and Dee Snyder's in it. And I bought the DVDs. So if you ever want to not watch Marvel, you let me know.
KT: Well, I need to find it online and send it to some people, if they actually mention the Market Basket.
DC: Oh, they do. There's a whole scene with two of the characters because the one girl can't pronounce it right.
KT: It's called Hollister.
DC: Holliston.
KT: Holliston.
DC: Yeah.
KT: It's called Abercrombie?
DC: Yes, Holliston. It was -- it came out in 2012.
KT: Okay. By then, it was already the Jubilee.
DC: Oh, it's three seasons. I'm a liar. I think it's, or maybe it is 2 seasons. I'm not, no, it's 2 seasons.
KT: I just can't stop lying.
DC: I am a huge liar. Okay, anything, any last words?
KT: Any last words?
DC: Yeah, anything you want to tell the people of Buffalo, the four people that will read this?
KT: Oh my god, four people. Listen, you're my best friends. And we have a lot in common, I don't doubt. Don't disrespect Marvel so much. You know, they have a lot of good moments. You know, pre--post-Endgame, there's some stuff going on there. And if you wanted to ever give it another chance, you can hit me up. Marvel Marathon. Also...
DC: My favorite Marvel movies are the Guardian of the Galaxy movies.
KT: Well, they're great.
DC: And I love James Gunn. So, you know.
KT: James Gunn gets a little James Gunny sometimes, but he's usually on point. He's pretty on point. I do like me some James Gunn. But fresh James Gunn and the Guardians, that was some good stuff there. That was good stuff. I'm just saying Peacemaker gets a little James Gunny sometimes. It's a little too Gunny.
DC: Oh, don't you talk shit about Peacemaker. You know what? This is going to have to be off of the interview. However, however, we have, you have like two more sentences to get out. Choose wisely.
KT: Oh, okay. I'm not going to do a bit. Oh man, I should have thought about this moment. I guess if you're going to want some sort of send off or something. But all I'm saying to the people is: You know what's right. Don't act like you don't know what the hell the right thing to do is. All right. So don't be trying to justify shitty thoughts and shitty behavior with some kind of shitty philosophy. You know what's right. All right. If you can't do it, then that's fine. None of us are perfect. But don't act like you don't know what's right.
DC: I don't know what you're talking about.
KT: They will. My people will. Also, I spent my 30s getting a pragmatic position in life, trying to be multifaceted, trying to be an adult. And then I kind of just knew by the time I was getting close to 40 that this is all just going to come crashing down and be unsatisfying. And I'm just going to want to get back into what I was passionate about when I was younger and stuff. So I guess if you want to do something that is sustainable, that helps you become an adult, that's a good idea. It could just be like a trade. It could just be something that pays the bills so we're not just starving so hard out here. But you got to always keep in mind that hobby is going to haunt you. And that passion is going to come back and eat you alive if you didn't feed it regularly. So you got to feed it a well-balanced diet. You got to feed the beast. You got to feed that passion somehow. So don't ever lose sight. But that's what you're going to come back to. And that's what you're going to have to do eventually to be satisfied with yourself and life a little bit more. Ultimately, there is no satisfaction other than hot, hot sex. But! The passion and that feeling you get When Thor shows up in Wakanda to that dank-ass Avengers theme music...
DC: All right, We're done here.
KT: You got to keep that alive. You got to keep it in mind. Otherwise, you're just going to get bored.
DC: You started to go up with the hot sex and then you dropped right down to the Marvel.
KT: Wait, you weren't on board until I mentioned the hot sex part?
DC: I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. I think that everyone should support their... the arts... that are inside of that, like the artistic being that is inside of them. And I think that is, no, it was a beautiful, it was a beautiful little send off.
KT: Just be honest with yourself. God damnit, you FOUR people. Just be honest with like... Okay, I'm a mathematician and I'm brilliant. I'm going to cure every disease. No problem. If that's you? Awesome! I'm happy for you. You're going to get so much hot, hot sex. But that's not all of us. And you got to just not deny that you're a dumb little mortal, and you can learn a trade. You can learn some pragmatic skill that'll give you some money. That's cool. But don't deny that you're an artist and you have this passion inside of you that needs to be let out because you might not find it in this pragmatic shit. You just got to.
DC: I feel like you're yelling at yourself instead of anybody else.
KT: Of course. I'm yelling at these four people. And of course myself. Okay, well, does that make any sense?
DC: Yes, it makes sense.